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  I'm Fed up and I can't take it anymore!

  by MTSman in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was born in four gen, been d.f.d.

  for about eight years now.

  my father had always been a true company man, although more times than i can count, he's always been floppy.

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  Nathan Natas

  Don't let strangers on an Internet discussion forums like Black Sheep or me tell you what to do.

  YOU know the facts of your life and your reasons better than any stranger.

  Or not.
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  How many times did you see a JW start a business

  by karter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with the intention of spending less time working and more time in f.s i saw this many times.

  an ex c.o started a carpet cleaning business with the charter being spending less time working more time in f.s.

  he has long since passed away and the company is now huge being the major player in flood resteration and employing 100's of people one of the owners i spoke to recently was sick due to using to many chemicals but carries on becouse he loves the money even though he's worth millions.

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  Nathan Natas

  Q.: How many times did you see a JW start a business?

  A.: Not often. I knew one fellow who owned a butcher shop and the 3 story building it was in with rental apartments on the 2nd and 3rd floor. He also owned the single-family home that he lived in with his wife and five kids. I don't know his financial details, but I would guess he was doing pretty well.

  He went into business and bought his home before he became a JW.

  When "Armageddon Fever" went around prior to 1975, he sold the business and the 3 story building so he could pioneer while this evil system came down.

  After a few years he had to go back to work - at a meatpacking plant (a BIG step down in job satisfaction and the loss of being his own boss, which he was fully capable of) - so he could provide for his family.

  Eventually he sold his home and relocated to a less expensive area of the country.

  I think he was a good example of an intelligent man who was misled by clowns who didn't know half of what he did about business or success. but that's just MY opinion, he probably thinks the Jehovah sock-puppet was well pleased by his loyalty.
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  Are Gods true worshippers on Earth today? If they are not JWs then who are they?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is there gods true worshipers on earth today as jesus said there would be?

  if they are not jws then who are they?.

  who else comes close to being gods true followers today?.

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  Nathan Natas

  "I'm sure there are some. The question is who?"

  Well, there's me, and there's you, but I'm not so sure about you.

  It would be a bit easier if there was a true God; one who wasn't schizophrenic and imaginary.
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  Crisis of Conscience: December 12, 2015 - 50 weeks later

  by Jehalapeno in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on december 12, 2015 this statement was made by the copyright holder:.

  i am presently considering three different routes to publishing crisis of conscience.

  i hope to make a decision within days and plan to publish within weeks.. it has now been 50 weeks since that statement.. has the book been published yet?

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  Nathan Natas

  "...He said he couldn't say anymore."

  I have no god and no master. If only all XJWs could say the same.
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  Crisis of Conscience: December 12, 2015 - 50 weeks later

  by Jehalapeno in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on december 12, 2015 this statement was made by the copyright holder:.

  i am presently considering three different routes to publishing crisis of conscience.

  i hope to make a decision within days and plan to publish within weeks.. it has now been 50 weeks since that statement.. has the book been published yet?

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  Nathan Natas

  Xelder and WingCommander have identified themselves as members of the freeloading parasite class.

  Who else wants to step up and hurl criticism at me for putting my money where my enthusiasm lies and peeling off a few bills to help republish a book the XJW community said was "essential"?

  Now I'm being called a "sucker" and the lawless throng of XJWs are saying "Copyright be damned! Piracy rules! Information wants to be free!"

  Knock yourselves out, jerks.
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  Why Did JWs Abandon Brooklyn for the Sticks?

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i may have missed this, but can anyone tell me what was the pretext the gb concocted to justify their abandonment of a perfectly suitable, high-profile, high-visibility complex in what is arguably the world's greatest metropolis for the bucolic isolation of upstate new york.

  any how does the move square with their purported belief in the imminence of armageddon?

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  Nathan Natas

  This may sound stupid (and of course it is) but it comes down to apocalypse-seeking:

  Matthew 24:15-16 (ASV) --

  "15 When therefore ye see the abomination of desolation, which was [a]spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in [b]the holy place (let him that readeth understand), 16 then let them that are in Judaea flee unto the mountains: "
  
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  Like / Dislike Display Issue

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  just a heads up, since the last update the like / dislike votes sometimes don't display immediately due to caching.

  they are all definitely counted though and will appear eventually, the issue is purely with the display part.

  i'll look at fixing the cache so it's more immediate..

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  Nathan Natas

  The post I made just seconds ago displays "in an hour" in the upper right corner of the message box. It's wacky.
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  Like / Dislike Display Issue

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  just a heads up, since the last update the like / dislike votes sometimes don't display immediately due to caching.

  they are all definitely counted though and will appear eventually, the issue is purely with the display part.

  i'll look at fixing the cache so it's more immediate..

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  Nathan Natas

  Editing recently posted messages seems problematical too.
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  Crisis of Conscience: December 12, 2015 - 50 weeks later

  by Jehalapeno in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on december 12, 2015 this statement was made by the copyright holder:.

  i am presently considering three different routes to publishing crisis of conscience.

  i hope to make a decision within days and plan to publish within weeks.. it has now been 50 weeks since that statement.. has the book been published yet?

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  Nathan Natas

  So it appears that when the call went out for people to assist with the republishing effort, almost nobody responded with tangible help. How admirable!

  ...and you wonder why nothing happens. The Israelites were from the "bitch and moan" class the tradition continues...

  Unless an Atlas comes along with shoulders wide enough to carry a project by him (or her) self, there is little in the way of truly cooperative efforts.
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  To all elders, some probing questions on assault by a member by another member.

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the title should have read, "assault by a member toward another member".

  (unfortunately, i couldn't find a way to edit the title).

  you happen to be driving by what looks to be your own empty kingdom hall and something doesn't look quite right.

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  Nathan Natas

  Mmmm, another delicious chunk of leftover Thanksgiving MEAT!

  Coming soon: Who can dance on the head of a pin?

  Stay tuned...